
You know how sometimes life becomes so busy that you have to sacrifice a few less-important things to get focused on the really important ones? That’s what happened with Philip, and why this interview took so long to get onto the blog. š After all, the man is not just a SF / Space Opera Author; he works in TV too. š But in retrospect, Philip’s timing couldn’t be better – with his latest novel on the way, this interview will give his fans (and I am most definitely one of them) some insight into his thought-processes, and wont spoil Red Claw at all. š So, without further a-do, I give you Philip Palmer!
First of all, welcome to the South African SF-reading public, Philip, and thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. š
Itās a real pleasure Dave.
Here’s my first question: Were you smoking something when you wrote Debatable Space? š
Iām tempted to try some illicit drugs as a way of calming myself down a little; my natural metabolism is WAY too high. But I prefer to use endorphins – Natureās natural narcotic.
I do like safe formulaic writing – when Iām looking for something to read on a Friday night. But when I write, I want to take risks. Weāve all read so many novels, seen so many films; so I want to know, what else? And how else?
Will you please tell us a bit about yourself? Your work in TV, influences, etc?
Iāve had a gipsy life as a writer – a bit of this, a bit of that. I worked as a script editor, and a script reader – David Puttnam was my boss for many years, when I was a humble reader. Iāve been a TV development executive, a TV script editor, I wrote for the British cop series The Bill, Iāve even been involved in the production side of things, for a company called Lucky Dog.
Working in TV taught me about story – how to tell a story, how to brainstorm a story, and how you need to never underestimate your audience when telling that story. (Which of course most British TV shows do ALL the time – but itās good to know your enemy!)
Will you please take us through the process of writing the book – what led to Lena popping into your head, any ‘eureka!’ moments where something worked even better than you thought it would, and seeing your book on the shelf for the first time?
I really donāt know where Lena came from; I just had that voice in my head, and I listened to it. I knew I wanted an āunreliable narratorā, someone self-deceiving, but ultimately loveable. And the moment Lena started talking to tinbrain, her remote computer – the tone and energy of the book was all there.
I started with a mind full of hazy ideas – solar yachts, space pirates, the notion of writing a story that was a yarn, not an interior monlogue. And then each section leaped into place as I continued through the book. The Cambria sequence was a particular delight for me.
Some stuff I had to work at – building up Peter Smithās character, getting the balance between Lena’s thought diary and action-adventure. But most of it really was eureka stuff.
And I remember I went with a friend into Blackwellās Bookshop on Charing Cross Road, just before the official publication date of the book – and found 3 or 4 copies on the shelf, which had snuck out early. My friend actually bought one, and got me to sign it! Now that was a good moment. Then a few seconds later, my wife phoned up to tell me the roof was leaking and we had an infestation of ladybirds in the bedroom. So I said, āYeah, but who cares? My bookās on the shelf in Blackwellās!ā
The main concepts that you dealt with, such as Emergence and Primary Imagination; did they grow out of telling the tale, or did you know from the beginning that you wanted to deal with them?
Before I started writing, I did quite a bit of science reading to get my head in that space, and it was then that I became fascinated by emergence. It just struck me as the only answer I know of to that vital question; how does this stuff actually happen? Evolution explains how complicated things evolve, by surviving or dying out; but how do simple things get to be complicated things? Why isnāt the universe just a great big mush of mess? If entropy and chaos are the natural state of things then, huh? Explain a snowflake!
The concept of Primary Imagination is something that has always intrigued me. At University I was a huge fan of Samuel Taylor Coleridge, who wrote āThe Rime of the Ancient Marinerā, and who also wrote philosophy, and coined the phrase āsuspension of disbeliefā to explain how we read and actively perceive fiction – and that phrase is still the best definition ever of the amazing magical thing that happens in our heads when we read a book, or see a film.
And it was Coleridge who coined the phrase Primary Imagination – based on his reading of Immanuel Kant – and guess what, it makes absolute sense. We each of us create the world, every time we look at it. We find pattern and beauty when we perceive matter that is actually made of atoms inhabiting weird quantum states, we see colour because of the way light interacts with our eyes, we make the real ārealā. How cool is that?
You’ve given life to some incredible characters in DS; did any of them ever sneak up and surprise you with something you hadn’t planned?
Kalenās āmiaowā was a bit of a shock to me. And Alby was the character I loved writing most – because he is so unpredictable, and hard to define, and so effortlessly powerful. I would love to have a friend like Alby.
You spoke of Michael Crichton’s novel Prey in the ‘Extras’ section at the back of DS; what are your opinions on ermergence and the ‘Hollywood’ threat of AI? (I say ‘Hollywood’ threat because it’s such a money-maker there)
Prey was indeed a great influence – Crichton (bless his memory) is such an uber-nerd that he actually has a reading list at the back of the book – which I devoured voraciously. The reading list proves he knows what emergence really is – a powerful ātheory of everythingā for biologists. But heās also smart enough to know that you canāt have a book without a villain; so he quite shamelessly uses emergence as a way of creating monsters.
I canāt be judgemental about that – I use the same approach myself all the time. You take the truth – great concepts in science – profound ideas – then you make a rattling good yarn out of them. So though I donāt really think emergence and nano-technology are any kind of urgent threat to us; itās cool to write stories in which that is so!
You left clues all through the novel as to the final fate of Peter; how was it writing the particular character that did the deed?
The clues were particularly cunning because I didnāt really know that was going to happen at the end. But, without giving anything away – I wanted magic in the closing sections of the book, and hope I achieved that .
Lena is vibrant and emotional and utterly fearless (when it suits her); Will Lena (and Flanagan, and the rest of the pirates) ever return? We certainly miss her (all of them) already. š
Iād love to write another Lena and Flanagan book, and hope to do so. Iād be wary, to be honest, of making a series of books about the characters – because that might make them seem ordinary, and itās their extraordinariness that defines them.
But I do have a notion for a follow-up novel, featuring Lenaās son (a son she didnāt know she had) in cahoots with Flanagan and Lena, on a mission at the far edge of the galaxyā¦But I have a bundle of other ideas too, so Iām not sure which ones Iāll write next.
And finally, what’s next for you, and for us? Already working on the next novel?
Iām having a joyous time at the moment writing my third book, a noir sci-fi novel set several hundred years later than Debatable Space, in what I call the Exodus Universe. Itās a detective drama, a murder story, it has killer aliens, it has it all really! That should be ready to send to my editor (DongWon Song) in the autumn I hope.
Meanwhile – book number 2 is to be published later this year. Itās called RED CLAW, and itās similar to DEBATABLE SPACE, despite being totally different in every single respect. Itās not a space opea, itās a thriller set on a planet rich in deadly aliens. And the main characters are a bunch of scientists who, like me, are geeks; geeks in peril no less.
Orbit have put a lot of work into designing a cover and approach for the new novel that will, we hope, make it stand out. The cover is āpulpā, but with attitude; and itāll be published in the rather snazzy āB Formatā – the paperback format thatās used for Iain M. Banksā books here in the UK.
RED CLAW is my love song to the old fashioned ābug eyed monstersā genre – the twist being, each of the bug-eyes monsters in my story has a Latin name, and a beauty all its own. Itās really a novel about the joy of discovery, and the naturalistās love of nature – with a bunch of killer doppelanger robots shooting the hell out of everyone along the way.
Thanks, Philip, for giving up your time to answer these questions, and for writing such a brilliant novel! We wish you all the best!
A pleasure – and letās keep in touch.
If you haven’t had a chance to read DS yet, and are wondering what DS is, check out my review of the excellent debut here. š
I’m sure the wait for the interview was worth it, don’t you agree? š And I’m sure you’re all looking foward to Philip’s second book for Orbit, Red Claw. If you haven’t seen it yet, here’s the cover; and go ahead, have a good laugh! I know I did! š

Check out Philip’s website here for further updates from him, and check out Orbit’s website here. š
You can also order Debatable Space here (US) and here (UK), and pre-order Red Claw here (UK).
Be Fantastic!
P.S. Did you know that John Jarrold is Philip’s agent? š