Legends of the Red Sun Interview: Randur Estevu
Here we go, the first of the character-interviews I conducted with Mark Newton. 
No, I didn’t interview him to get a handle on his character, I interviewed characters from his novels, Nights of Villjamur and City of Ruin, instead. 
The first character to get the spotlight was Randur Estevu – the rogue, womanizer, master duelist, and dancer. Randur travelled from the island of Folke to the heart of the Jamur Empire, ostensibly to get aid for his ailing mother, but Randur is pulled into a burgeoning conflict that’ll change the Empire, for good or worse; hope you enjoy it!
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Dave: Coming from a small island and now being in the greatest city of the Empire, is it a bit overwhelming or more of the same just on a bigger scale?
Randur: Well, there are plenty more women here, that’s for sure…
But, I can honestly say that no matter where you go, people are still after the same kind of things. People need to put food in their mouths, need to get by, need the attentions of a lover. (That’s where I come in.) I’ve noticed a lot of lonely people getting tempted by shiny trinkets. Life isn’t as wholesome in Villjamur as much as the countryside – and in this city, the problems are swept into the caves, away from public view. People are obsessed with drinking and generally doing what they can to escape the world. And who can blame them, with the ice coming in?
Dave: Ah, yes, the ice! Tell me, was the coming of the ice discussed in Folke, openly, or was it something relegated to gossips? I guess what I’m asking is, coming from such a small corner of the Empire, surely there are those who still don’t believe in what’s coming?
Randur: You can never really trust what the old women gossip about on Folke. Chances are only half of what they say is even close to true, and even then aimed at bringing down someone in the community. And the men are worse – sitting in silence for much of the day and when they do speak all they do is mutter about bad omens.
To be honest, some people need to make a living, and just get on no matter what the elements bring. But bugger was I going to stay there, given half a chance of some sanctuary. In terms of belief? Well when you’d experienced the recent weather before I left, you don’t need much convincing.
Dave: You seem like a pragmatist, one who doesn’t readily believe rumours – not from the women-folk of Folke at least! How would you describe yourself? What terrifies you and exhilirates you?
Randur: In my dance, I am an artist. Actually, same in the bedroom too, given half a chance… Other than that? I’m someone who takes a risk now and then. You might say I’ve blagged my way through life so far, and that’d be fair. You have to – you’ve only go so long and you’ve got to make the most of it. What terrifies me? Not a lot if I’m honest. I tend not to think all that hard about the fears and the likes. I get my kicks out of living close to the edge: getting caught in the act by someone’s husband gets the ol’ heart beating.
Most of all, I enjoy the art of dancing. On my island, it’s a masculine activity. In this damn city, everyone things I’m a bit of a dandy for doing it – but it’s my life, my calling. I lose my sense of self when I’m doing it (which possibly explains why I’m so full of myself when I’m not).
Dave: Should I be glad that I don’t have a wife? Don’t answer that. Although, I might just take up some dancing, come to think of it…
Anyway, what are your thoughts on influx of refugees? Do you think the Emperor is in a position to handle the situation?
Randur: I’m sure I would treat her with great respect.
As for the refugees? Not much anyone can do about it in this world. It’s a symptom of things – that money gets sucked into Villjamur from islands like mine. We’re poor people, out on Folke, but we had a lot of resources – ores and agriculture. Doesn’t add up, does it? Exactly. So when you take away everything from them, what else are they going to do but come banging on the only door in this world that has a hope in hell of offering… anything. So of course, the institutions in Villjamur are in a position to do many things. They merely choose not to.”
Dave: Well I’m sure that Chancellor Urtika has a plan in motion that will see the refugees taken care of.
Moving onto your impressions of the city, what do you think about Villjamur? I’m not talking about sights and sounds, mind you, but your impressions – when you look at the city, when you breathe it in, how does this city of cities make you feel?
Randur: It makes you feel very humble. There are what, eleven thousand years of history on this site. It’s vast. It’s architecture is a mishmash of designs. It imposes itself on you. It makes you feel very insignificant. You can loose yourself in the mass of people – which is strangely liberating, being a nobody.
Dave: Last question for you: Considering the palpable building of tension in Villjamur, and the kind of people who are in charge, who have known only this city and this life, is there a place for you in Villjamur? And if not, what would it take you make you choose to stay? Hypothetical of course.
Randur: For me to stay, I’d need an endless supply of women to charm and teach to dance… hypothetically, of course.
All I have are my sword skills and dance skills – which aren’t that dissimilar; you can use them anywhere, so my home is also anywhere. But I don’t think I’d like to stay in Villjamur too long though – the corruption, the violence, the sin… I don’t know how people could want to make their lives with all of this crap around them. And besides, people have such bad manners in the city.
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There we go, a hint of the Randur you’ll meet in the pages of Nights of Villjamur.
To order your copies of Nights of Villjamur, click here for the hardcover edition and here for the paperback (available on the 4th of June) at Amazon UK, and if you’re in the US, pre-order your copies here – remember, Nights of Viiljamur goes on sale in the US on the 29th of June. If you’d like a taste of Nights, check out this link – it’ll take you through to Goodreads, where you’ll be able to read the first chapter.
Come back tomorrow for the next-to-last character interview – Investigator Rumex Jeryd.
Until then,
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Legends of the Red Sun – Character Interviews
Some of you will remember that I did some character interviews with Mark Charan Newton a while back. This was born from me wanting to interview Mark about his work (Nights of Villjamur and City of Ruin) but also wanting to do something new and fresh; I asked Mark how he felt about me sending him questions for some of the characters in the novels and he liked the idea, so we went ahead and came up with some very cool interviews.
With Mark’s second Legends of the Red Dun novel, City of Ruin, on the threshold of official publication in the UK, and with Nights of Villjamur’s US publication date appraoching, too, I’m going to be re-posting the reviews of Nights of Villjamur and City of Ruin, as well as the interviews I’ve conducted with the characters in the novels.
Here’s what you can look forward to, and when:
On Monday the 31st of May (being tomorrow), you’ll be able to read the interview I did with Randur Estevu,
On the first of June it’ll be Investigator Rumex Jeryd‘s turn,
and on the second of June, Night Guard Commander Brynd Lathraea Adaol.
On the 3rd of June I’ll re-post my review of Nights of Villjamur, and on the 4th, my review of City of Ruin.
June the 4th is the big pub-date for City of Ruin in the UK, and the paperback edition of Nights of Villjamur will also go on sale on the 4th. Mark officially enters the US on the 29th of June with Nights of Villjamur.
Here are the covers you can look forward to seeing on the shelves:
Book One of the Legends of the Red Sun – Nights of Villjamur (UK paperback edition):
Book Two of the Legends of the Red Sun – City of Ruin (UK hardcover edition)
Book One of the Legends of the Red Sun – Nights of Villjamur (US hardcover edition):
I’m really looking forward to seeing how the US embraces Mark’s work – I’m pretty sure that he’ll be making a huge splash over there!
Be back here tomorrow for the first interview!
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Book Trailer: Infinity by Sherrilyn Kenyon
Hey Guys and Girls, I’ve got a book trailer for Sherrilyn Kenyon’s latest (sure to be) bestseller, Infinity. Enjoy!
“At fourteen, Nick Gautier thinks he knows everything about the world around him. Streetwise, tough and savvy, his quick sarcasm is the stuff of legends. . .until the night when his best friends try to kill him.”
The New York Times-bestselling with over 19 million books in print, Sherrilyn Kenyon is renowned the world over as “the reigning queen of the paranormal genre that she pioneered long before the world had heard of Twilight.”
You can also download the song you heard in the trailer at this link, and order your copies of Infinity here.
If you’d like to read the first chapter of Infinity, check it out at this link.
Hope you all have an awesome weekend!
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P.S. Check out the comments on this post for an awesome extra, thanks to the Adam Ezra Group (the band from the video)!
Book Trailer: Wymewealde – Returner’s Wealth by Chris Riddell and Paul Stewart
Thanks to Corrine over at Random House Children’s Books UK, I’ve got the book trailer to the next project from Paul Stewart and Chris Riddell – Wymeweald: Returner’s Wealth!
I also received a copy of the book and will be reading and reviewing it soon, so keep a look-out for that.
Order your copies here – the book is available right now!
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Announcing: The Rising Dawn Saga Book 2: The Storm Guardians by Stephen Zimmer
I’m on the cusp of finishing the first book in Stephen Zimmer’s The Rising Dawn Saga, The Exodus Gate, and I’m really enjoying the book – Stephen has great vision and his tale is really epic in scope, so it’s definitely great news that the second book in the series, The Storm Guardians, is on the way. Here’s the cover, and check out the details below the cover.
For Immediate Release
May 18, 2010
Stephen Zimmer’s The Storm Guardians, Book Two of the Rising Dawn Saga,
Set For Launch at Hypericon
Seventh Star Press will be launching Stephen Zimmer’s second Rising Dawn Saga novel, The Storm Guardians, at the Hypericon science fiction and fantasy convention in Nashville, TN, taking place from June 4-6, 2010.
Book two in the epic urban fantasy series, the release reflects the commitment of Seventh Star Press to have a new title out each year in the Rising Dawn Saga. The Storm Guardians follows the events and characters introduced in The Exodus Gate, and is an installment full of action and intrigue set in a parallel world very similar to Earth.
With a multi-threaded style that focuses on a diverse range of characters, the novel appeals to readers of epic and urban fantasy alike. The danger rises and the stakes grow throughout all of the story threads in The Storm Guardians: A massive battle looms in the spirit realms, as the Fallen Avatar Beleth’s legions pour into the Middle Lands. Babylon Technologies prepares to unveil its greatest invention, a technology that will impact every living being on the face of the world. The shape-shifting An-Ki find themselves in grave peril, as the Night Hunt resumes once again. A
small group of high school students make an incredible discovery, even as tensions swirl in a small town over a law enforcement deadlock that causes a sheriff to question his own part in the course of events. The Convergence continues its steadfast march towards a global legal and economic order, using all means at its disposal. The question is: Who will be the guardians against the storm?
The Rising Dawn Saga is just one of two active fantasy series by Stephen Zimmer, whose epic medieval Fires in Eden series was set in motion with the release of Crown of Vengeance, in November of 2009. The second book in the Fires in Eden series is slated for winter of 2010.
Amanda DeBord, chief editor at Seventh Star Press, and who was the editor for Zimmer’s The Exodus Gate and Crown of Vengeance novels, said about the new book, “I’m so excited for the release of The Storm Guardians, and happy to be one of the first to tell readers that they’re going to love the developments in this second installment of Zimmer’s Rising Dawn Saga. Fans of The Exodus Gate will be happy to see the return of familiar faces, and some real heroes arising from the action. However, Stephen has taken
care to ensure that new readers to the series will be able to jump right in to the story.”
The Storm Guardians also continues the artistic collaboration between fantasy artist Matthew Perry and Stephen Zimmer, featuring no less than thirteen brand new, full page illustrations, as well as the cover art. Along with The Exodus Gate and Crown of Vengeance, Matthew has now done more than 40 full page illustrations and three covers in his association
with Stephen’s literary works. “Stephen’s narratives cover the gamut of deep introspectiveness to epic, world-changing events. To have that range, and to be to able to go in and out of those possibilities, makes it an adventure for me to see what emerges from the empty canvas,” said Matthew.
One of the most active fantasy authors in productivity and appearances, Stephen will be visiting numerous conventions and bookstores throughout 2010 in support of The Storm Guardians and his other literary works and
film projects.
The Hypericon visit from June 4-6th in Nashville kicks off the support of The Storm Guardians, along with a June 7th appearance at Davis-Kidd Booksellers in Memphis, TN. “I am really honored to be launching the new
book at Hypericon, which has always been a wonderful event, with many special friends, readers, and amazing guests, like this year’s guest of honor, a living literary legend, Ramsey Campbell. I’m very thankful to Fred Grimm for this opportunity. I can’t wait to find out what readers think of The Storm Guardians, as I believe it shows how I build upon my foundations in a series. Expect loads of action, and many surprises!” Stephen said.
A special collector’s edition hardcover, limited to 75 copies, is now being offered with a full package of collectibles, with trade paperback,
hardcover, Kindle, and eBook editions to follow.
Updates and additional information can be obtained at the official site for Seventh Star Press, at www.seventhstarpress.com, or at the author’s site at www.stephenzimmer.com
Hypericon’s official website can be found at: www.hypericononline.com
Contact: C.C. James
Public Relations, Seventh Star Press
ccjames@seventhstarpress.com
Seventh Star Press Mailing Address:
3801 Dylan Place Suite 116, #7
Lexington, Ky. 40514-1062
Seventh Star Press is a small press publisher of speculative fiction located in Lexington Kentucky.
To sweeten this post, I’ve got some of Matthew Perry’s artwork for you to enjoy!
Awesome stuff, right? Keep an eye out for more – I’ll be posting the rest of the artwork that Stephen sent me leading up to HyperiCon.
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P.S. Apologies once again for the formatting – still a problem, as you can see.
New Release Day: The Machinery of Light by David J Williams
It’s a New Release day! Hitting the shelves everywhere across the US TODAY is the final book in David J Williams’ The Autumn Rain Trilogy – The Machinery of Light!
David was awesome and sent me The Mirrored Heavens and The Burning Skies; I started reading The Mirrored Heavens just to get a taste of David’s style and a glimpse into the world he’s created, and before I knew it I had read the first part of The Mirrored Heavens – and that in less than 24 hours. What am I trying to say? David yanked me out of what I was reading at the time, and it was only with a supreme effort of will that I managed to force myself to put the book down and focus on reading what I had been busy with!
The Mirrored Heavens is incredibly fast-paced, a real flurry of hammer-punches that keep you hooked and curious, and that’s only the first 90-odd pages! I’m really looking forward to sinking my teeth into the rest of The Mirrored Heavens, which will be happening within the next week or two.
If you’ve yet to discover David’s work, check out the Autumn Rain website here; there you’ll find links to David’s blog as well as all the background info you need to whet your appetite.
Order you copies of The Mirrored Heavens here, The Burning Skies here and The Machinery of Light here.
Stephen Baxter said “This is Tom Clancy interfacing Bruce Sterling.” and Peter Watts said “Explodes out of the gate like a sonic boom and never stops.” As far as I’m concerned, they’re not far wrong!
If you want your SF hard-hitting, intelligent and, maybe, just a tad really too prophetic, start reading David J Williams today.
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The Launch: Zoo City by Lauren Beukes
The South African launch of Zoo City (the first, at least) will be happening tomorrow at The Book Lounge in Cape Town – I won’t be able to make it, but for those of you who can and need or want more details, here we go:
Here are the details again, in case you can’t see them:
You can find The Book Lounge at the following address: 71 Roeland Street, cnr Buitenkant, in Cape Town, and the launch is scheduled to kick off at from 6PM (but be there early!).
To RSVP your place, you can email The Book Lounge at booklounge (at) gmail (dot) com, or phone them on (021) 462 2425.
Here’s a bit on what you can expect at the launch, courtesy of Lauren herself:
“My new book, Zoo City, is out next week and we’re celebrating at The Book
Lounge with customised toys, black zoo biscuits and a lot of marabou storks.
And the book of course!
Here’s the blurb, just in case you can’t make it.
Zinzi has a Sloth on her back, a dirty 419 scam habit and a talent for
finding lost things. But when a little old lady turns up dead and the cops
confiscate her last paycheck, she¹s forced to take on her least favourite
kind of job missing persons.
Being hired by reclusive music producer Odi Huron to find a teenybop pop
star should be her ticket out of Zoo City, the festering slum where the
criminal underclass and their animal companions live in the shadow of hell¹s
undertow.
Instead, it catapults Zinzi deeper into the maw of a city twisted by crime
and magic, where she¹ll be forced to confront the dark secrets of former
lives including her own.
Love to see you there.”
For those of you who can’t make it to the launch, order your copies of Zoo City here, and for those in the UK starving for another Lauren-fix, pre-order your copies here (the book will be available in September in the UK).
Expect my review sometime during next week, and for all those attending, enjoy the launch!
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China Mieville, Mark Newton and Adam Neville at Forbidden Planet London!
Hey everyone, I thought I’d post this for everyone who’s missed the news and who are lucky enough to live in London – Three huge authors will be at Forbidden Planet’s London Megastore tonight!
Here’s the detail you need from the page on Forbidden Planet’s website:
“Thursday 20 May 18:00 – 19:00
London Megastore
179 Shaftesbury Avenue, London, WC2H 8JR
Three huge talents; one signing event – FORBIDDEN PLANET are delighted to be hosting a triple signing with China Miéville, Adam Nevill and Mark Charan Newton on Thursday 20th May at the Forbidden Planet Megastore, 179 Shaftesbury Avenue, London WC2H 8JR.
In China Miéville’s KRAKEN, a prize specimen has come to the Natural History Museum – a giant squid, whole and perfectly preserved. When it disappears, curator Billy Harrow finds himself in a city of warring cults and surreal magic – and the forthcoming end of the world.
APARTMENT 16 by Adam Nevill is wonderfully written, deftly plotted tale of utter horror which will have you turning the lights on in the middle of the night. Follow and unravel the tale of Barringon House – and discover that the doorway to Apartment 16 is a gateway to something terrifying.
Two weeks in advance of publication date, CITY OF RUIN by Mark Charan Newton is the follow-on to the massively successful Nights of Villjamur, taking us back to the lands of the Red Sun. This time, we go to to Villiren, where Brynd and investigator Jeryd must fight to save a city that’s already in ruins.“
FP will have plenty of stock available of the respective novels, including Mark Newton’s City of Ruin (which is only being officially released on the 4th of June 2010!). If you can’t make it to the event, FP is also allowing you to order the books on their site – they’ll get the ordered copies signed by the authors. Awesome, right?
So if you’ve made plans, cancel them and be sure to get there early! You may even bump into some of the awesome bloggers who make the blogosphere such a cool ‘place’ to be a part of.
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Announcing Thrillfest V
Hey everyone, I got the news from Imran at Media Muscle that Trhillfest will be hitting New York City again soon! Here are the details:
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
SUSPENSE AND THE CITY
MASTERS OF LITERATURE’S THRILLER GENRE ARE ABOUT TO EXECUTE AN EVENT SO PERFECT IT’S ALMOST CRIMINAL
ThrillerFest V, the world’s most diabolically delicious literature festival, chills New York City July 7-10, 2010 at the Grand Hyatt Hotel
There’s only one event where New York Times best-selling masters of the art lurk around every corner, agents appear in broad daylight and fans conspire with writers in the wee, small hours of the night – ThrillerFest V, the International Thriller Writers’ fifth annual celebration of their genre and the largest event of its kind in the world.
The highlight of the event will be the gala ITW Thriller Awards Banquet on Saturday when the heroes of suspense will be honored:
International best-selling author Ken Follett will receive the 2010 ThrillerMaster Award given by 2009 recipient David Morrell
Mark Bowden, author of Black Hawk Down will become the first recipient of the True Thriller Award.
Brad Meltzer, recipient of the 2009 Silver Bullet Award, will present the 2010 award to Linda Fairstein
And this year’s winners in the categories of Best Hardcover Novel, Best Paperback Original, Best First Novel and Best Short Story will be revealed.
But the list of the notables doesn’t end there – more than 50 best-selling authors and another 200 up-and-comers will be at the festival, ready to mix and mingle with fans, aspiring writers and industry executives. In fact, ThrillerFest is often called the summer camp of literary events. Everyone–the famous, the infamous, the law-abiding, and the unsung — all freely chat and party together while sharing their love of thrillers.
There will be plenty of thrills during the four-day event. In the spotlight will be interviews with top authors, each interrogated by another thriller master:
Ken Follett, legendary author of The Eye of the Needle, Pillars of the Earth, and World Without End is the recipient of the ITW 2010 ThrillerMaster Award, will be interviewed by Steve Berry.
David Morrell, last year’s recipient of the ThrillerMaster Award and author of First Blood, will be interviewed by Douglas Preston.
Lisa Scottoline, author of the legal thrillers Killer Smile and Lady Killer, will be interviewed by Jon Land.
Gayle Lynds, the Queen of International Suspense, will be interviewed by Lisa Gardner.
Harlan Coben, whose novels Hold Tight and Long Lost debuted at number 1 on the New York Times Best Seller list, will be interviewed by Kathleen Antrim.
The panels are only the beginning. Returning are CraftFest and AgentFest, mini-festivals within the conference. During the two-day CraftFest, writers looking to hone their craft can take workshops from many New York Times Best Selling authors. An afternoon at AgentFest will be like speed-dating as aspiring writers get a chance to pitch their manuscripts to more than 40 agents. There will also be a complete bookstore, a reader’s reception and many, many book signings.
And what would a gathering of fans and writers of intense suspense be without a party, or should we say, parties? There’s one every night during ThrillerFest V including a celebration of four great, new publications on Friday night:
Wednesday – Get acquainted at the CraftFest cocktail party.
Thursday – Festivities officially begin with an opening reception cocktail party.
Friday – The brand new ITW publication reception cocktail party will feature a grand book signing with dozens of best-selling authors.
Saturday – One ticket to the ITW Awards Banquet gets you into three parties: the pre-event cocktail party, the Awards Banquet and the post-event party and happy recap.
Register now by going to www.ThrillerFest.com and clicking on “Registration.” Like all great literary thrill rides, you’ll want to follow this one all the way to the end.
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So for all of those in NYC in July who think they have the next big Thriller ready to be pitched or for those just wanting to meet the writers behind the thrillers they love, Thrillfest V is the place to be. Wish I could make it!
Press Release: Announcing ‘Thrall’ from Seventh Star Press
Great news from the publishers who brought us Stephen Zimmer‘s The Rising Dawn Saga and the Fires in Eden series:
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For Immediate Release
May 6, 2010
Seventh Star Press Announces New Steven L. Shrewsbury Novel
Seventh Star Press is proud to announce the addition of Fantasy/Horror writer Steven L. Shrewsbury to its family of authors, with the forthcoming release of the dark-edged fantasy novel Thrall.
Thrall tells the tale of Gorias La Gaul, an aging warrior who is thrust into a maelstrom involving warring factions, demonic forces from his past, and a grandson who is in the shadow of necromancy. Set in an antediluvian world, around the mythical city of Khabnur, Thrall brings to life a tale of adventure, adversity, and courage. From Nephilums to undead dragons, the world revealed in Thrall is as dangerous and unpredictable as much as it delivers resoundingly to those who love well-crafted, hard hitting fantasy in the vein of Robert E. Howard and David Gemmell.
Shrewsbury is no stranger to fantasy and horror fans, with a great number of novels and short stories published. Some of his recent, well-received works include the novels Tormentor (Lachesis Publishing), Hawg (Graveside Tales) and Stronger Than Death (Snuff Books). He also had a short story recently published in the anthology Harlan County Horrors (Apex Publications).
Amanda DeBord, editor-in-chief at Seventh Star Press, commented on the acquisition of Thrall: “I’m so excited to add Steven Shrewsbury to the Seventh Star label. Steven’s a prolific writer, and he’s got a ton of fans already, but I hope we’re able to introduce him to some new readers. From the first few paragraphs of Thrall, I knew the story was in very capable hands. Gorias, the main character, is the fantasy-lovers’ John Wayne,
though with a harder edge. All of the characters are real and engaging, and Shrewsbury tells their story as if he were there to watch it all happen. This is going to be a hit.”
Thrall will reunite Shrewsbury with editor Louise Bohmer, who worked with him on his novel Tormentor (Lachesis Publishing). Bohmer is also a familiar figure in the publishing world, with a host of editing credits spanning novels to short fiction and anthologies. The chemistry and previous history between the author and editor forecasts an outstanding first edition of the book.
“”It’s a pleasure to edit for Steven Shrewsbury. A walk through one of his
novels is a thrilling adventure, often with a breathless pace that makes you feel as if you’ve lived a part of the story with its hero,” said Bohmer, in regards to working with Shrewsbury again.
The book will feature cover art and additional artwork from fantasy artist Matthew Perry, whose illustrations and cover art are featured in both The Rising Dawn Saga and the Fires in Eden series from author Stephen Zimmer
(Seventh Star Press).
The projected release date window for Thrall is October/November of 2010. A special, short-run limited edition hardcover will be offered with a package of collectibles, with trade paperback, hardcover, Kindle, and
eBook editions to follow.
Updates and additional information can be obtained at the official site for Seventh Star Press, at www.seventhstarpress.com , or at the author’s site at www.stevenshrewsbury.com
Sounds like another great book! Really looking forward to Thrall, and it’s great to see Seventh Star Press expanding as they are.
By the way, the next bunch of reviews coming will be, in this order, The Desert Spear, Kell’s Legend, and The Exodus Gate.
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P.S. I apologize for the way the post looks – seems that WordPress and Yahoo’s formatting don’t match.
